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, as an expert in both religion and the media right now, this is a tremendous media event. this is a tremendous introduction to the world now that's really been going on for days. >> i thought about this. the media coverage has been wonderful but i don't think the media is doing it for the church but for the people. i think your ratings have been very high because religion matters to people. with statistics thrown around, more people go to mass on sunday than go to professional sports events, but i think as the networks that are responding now to the great interest in religion among the people and certainly in the united states and probably elsewhere. >> one of the things we've been told throughout the morning is ben wedeman was telling us earlier, that the crowd's not as huge as they were perhaps last week. it is tuesday, after all, and people do have to work. one of the advantages of this is that so many people in the crowd, they're getting a really close look at pope francis when he toured around in the square in the open air pope mobile and greeted the people of rome which is a personal vie
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